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03/17/2020 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:02:17 AM Start
08:03:00 AM Presentation: Climate Change Action Plan & Policy Recommendation to the Governor
08:45:26 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Climate Change Action Plan & Policy TELECONFERENCED
Recommendations to the Governor by
Michael LeVine, Luke Hopkins, & Sam Schimmel,
Former Team Members, The Walker Administration
Climate Change for Alaska Leadership Team
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         March 17, 2020                                                                                         
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Sara Hannan, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Jackson (via teleconference)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: CLIMATE CHANGE ACTION PLAN & POLICY RECOMMENDATION                                                                
TO THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MIKE LEVINE, Senior Arctic Fellow                                                                                               
Ocean Conservancy                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered a presentation on the Climate                                                                 
Change Action Plan & Policy Recommendation to the Governor.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LUKE HOPKINS                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered a presentation on the Climate                                                                 
Change Action Plan & Policy Recommendation to the Governor.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SAM SCHIMMEL                                                                                                                    
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered a presentation on the Climate                                                                 
Change Action Plan & Policy Recommendation to the Governor.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIET   DRUMMOND  called  the  House   Community  and                                                             
Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee  meeting to  order at  8:02                                                               
a.m.  Representatives Drummond,  Hannan, Claman, and Jackson (via                                                               
teleconference) were present at the call to order.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:    Climate   Change    Action   Plan    &   Policy                                                               
Recommendation to the Governor                                                                                                  
PRESENTATION: Climate Change Action Plan & Policy Recommendation                                                            
                        to the Governor                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
8:03:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  announced that  the  only  order of  business                                                               
would  be a  presentation on  a  climate change  action plan  and                                                               
policy recommendations to the governor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:03:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE LEVINE,  Senior Arctic Fellow,  Ocean Conservancy,  said the                                                               
scheduled  speakers  would  talk  about the  Climate  Action  for                                                               
Alaska Leadership  Team (CAALT)  - its process  and product.   He                                                               
said  he  would  begin  by   providing  a  background  about  the                                                               
operation of the team; Luke  Hopkins would talk about science and                                                               
local  governments;  and  Sam  Schimmel   would  talk  about  the                                                               
importance  of action,  impacts  to Native  communities, and  the                                                               
role of youth in the team process.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVINE  acknowledged  that the  coronavirus  was  front  and                                                               
center  in focus  currently,  and he  thanked  the committee  for                                                               
continuing  its work  on other  important  matters.   He cited  a                                                               
report from  the International Arctic  Research Center  (IARC) at                                                               
the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, which he read as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska has recently  experienced profound environmental                                                                    
     change   related   to   extreme  weather   events   and                                                                    
     deviations  from  the  historical climate.    Sustained                                                                    
     warmth,   sea  ice   loss,   coastal  flooding,   river                                                                    
     flooding,  and major  ecosystem  changes have  impacted                                                                    
     the  daily   lives  of   Alaskans  around   the  state.                                                                    
     Temperatures  have been  consistently  warmer than  any                                                                    
     time  in  the  past  century, the  growing  season  has                                                                    
     increased  substantially in  most areas,  and the  snow                                                                    
     cover   season  has   shortened.     Precipitation  has                                                                    
     increased  and,  like  temperature,  the  changes  vary                                                                    
     regionally.   The ocean around Alaska  is now regularly                                                                    
     warmer  than  at  any  time  in  the  past  150  years,                                                                    
     affecting everything from algae  to fisheries and human                                                                    
     health.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE  next read from a  letter from CAALT to  Governor Mike                                                               
Dunleavy, as follows:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The science  is clear:  Alaska  communities, economies,                                                                    
     and ecosystems  are changing  rapidly.   Emissions from                                                                    
     the combustion  of fossil fuels  are the root  cause of                                                                    
     these  changes, and  there is  an urgent  need to  take                                                                    
     action to address both the  causes and effects.  Alaska                                                                    
     has both the opportunity and  obligation to be a leader                                                                    
     in the effort  to mitigate and adapt to  the impacts of                                                                    
     climate change.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE  continued to emphasize  the science behind  the claim                                                               
that greenhouse gasses are the  root cause of climate change, and                                                               
he said this affects all aspects of life.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:06:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE  said climate  change is  not a  political issue.   He                                                               
said  when former  Governor  Bill Walker  created  CAALT, he  was                                                               
"continuing a line of action  set in motion by his predecessors."                                                               
The team  was created in  2017 via administrative  order; several                                                               
members  were appointed  by the  governor.   He noted  that those                                                               
members are listed on pages 2  and 3 of the policy recommendation                                                               
documents,    entitled    "Alaska     Climate    Change    Policy                                                               
Recommendations  to  the  Governor" [included  in  the  committee                                                               
packet].   Members were appointed  for three-year terms,  and the                                                               
lieutenant  governor  was  the  chair  of  the  leadership  team.                                                               
Members  came  from diverse  backgrounds  and  occupations.   Mr.                                                               
Levine  talked about  the meetings  and the  advisory bodies  and                                                               
working groups created.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:09:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVINE said  the team  was charged  with drafting  a climate                                                               
policy  for  Alaska  and  an action  for  implementing  it;  some                                                               
actions  would be  best taken  through the  administration, while                                                               
others would  be suited to  follow the legislative process.   The                                                               
ultimate goal  was to  have a policy  adopted by  the legislature                                                               
akin to the Alaska Arctic Policy.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVINE,   referring  again  to  the   aforementioned  policy                                                               
document, highlighted  segments of  the vision statement  on page                                                               
5.  He said it sought  to:  promote social, ecological, cultural,                                                               
and  economic  well-being  [of communities];  help  achieve  food                                                               
security,  energy security,  and  environmental security;  ensure                                                               
healthy ecosystems  and prudent natural resource  management; and                                                               
sustain  a  robust  economy  based   on  Alaskan  innovation  and                                                               
resilience.  He  explained that the idea was to  show that Alaska                                                               
can  take meaningful  action  to mitigate  and  adapt to  climate                                                               
change while recognizing it is a resource-dependent state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE drew attention to the  statement of purpose on page 6.                                                               
He highlighted  that Alaska's economy  is currently  dependent on                                                               
natural  resource  development,  including oil  and  natural  gas                                                               
production.   Although these resources are  finite and contribute                                                               
to global  greenhouse gas emissions, they  also support essential                                                               
government  services  and  the  state's  "ability  to  adapt  and                                                               
respond."   He said responsible  development of  those resources,                                                               
at least in the short term,  was not inconsistent with the policy                                                               
statement or actions proposed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVINE named  the  six broad  policy  statements related  to                                                               
climate  change, which  are shown  on  page 8:   communities  and                                                               
partnerships; human  and ecosystem health;  economic opportunity;                                                               
clean energy;  outreach and education;  and investment.   Each of                                                               
those  statements   relates  to  objectives  for   the  state  to                                                               
implement.  He emphasized that  the policy document illustrated a                                                               
broad consensus among the leadership team.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:12:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE talked  about a draft action plan, which  he called "a                                                               
road map for implementing the policy."   The draft action plan is                                                               
a list of  suggested action related to the  six policy statements                                                               
and  their accompanying  suggested  actions.   He  said  it is  a                                                               
manual, and  the team hoped  it could  work with the  governor to                                                               
prioritize  and implement  the recommendations.   He  said "these                                                               
documents"  were transmitted  to the  governor in  December 2018,                                                               
along with a  list of short-term actions in a  cover letter.  The                                                               
cover letter  included recommendations  for three  immediate term                                                               
steps:  to appoint a  permanent cabinet-level position focused on                                                               
climate   change;  to   commit   to   developing  and   promoting                                                               
legislation  that  would codify  the  climate  action policy  and                                                               
require  steps to  implement it;  and to  recognize that  climate                                                               
communications outreach and public  education are essential.  Mr.                                                               
Levine said  at the same  time the parallel cabinet  climate team                                                               
developed   a  list   of  short-term   actions   that  could   be                                                               
implemented, which was also provided to the governor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE said once the  initial documents were submitted to the                                                               
governor, the  leadership team began  thinking about the  work of                                                               
prioritizing  the  proposed  actions.    He  quoted  the  opening                                                               
statement of the policy as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     We do  not view  these documents  as the  conclusion of                                                                    
     our work;  rather we  hope to  have created  a platform                                                                    
     from    which    the    administration    and    future                                                                    
     administrations  can  move  forward  to  implement  the                                                                    
     climate  policy and  provide the  needed personnel  and                                                                    
     support to  take action  pursuant to  that policy.   We                                                                    
     stand ready  to assist the  state in taking  action, as                                                                    
     needed,  to  ensure sustainable  communities;  vibrant,                                                                    
     diverse  economies;  and  healthy  ecosystems  for  all                                                                    
     Alaskans and future generations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVINE stated  that  unfortunately the  team  never got  the                                                               
chance, because  shortly after  taking office,  Governor Dunleavy                                                               
revoked the administrative order that  had created the team, thus                                                               
ending the work of CAALT.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:14:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUKE HOPKINS  said he  was former mayor  of Fairbanks  North Star                                                               
Borough and  served on former  Governor Sarah  Palin's subcabinet                                                               
climate team.  He talked about  the meetings held by CAALT, which                                                               
included three  session to  take public comment.   He  echoed Mr.                                                               
Levine's remarks  about the importance of  diverse representation                                                               
on the team.   He said the team requested  that the governor form                                                               
a science advisory group and an  oil and gas advisory group, both                                                               
of   which   gave  validity   to   discussion   and  the   team's                                                               
publications.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:19:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOPKINS expressed frustration  regarding the present state of                                                               
climate policy considering the history  of climate change efforts                                                               
made over the last 30 years.   The goals and objectives have been                                                               
clearly stated.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOPKINS talked  about his property, with  permafrost, and his                                                               
care taken  to not walk  on certain areas to  protect vegetation.                                                               
He stressed  that climate change  is affecting the state  in many                                                               
ways, and he expressed his hope  that the state would take action                                                               
through the policy recommendations  instead of hiding information                                                               
from the public, which he indicated has occurred in the past.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:23:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOPKINS offered his understanding  that former Governor Palin                                                               
had requested a  capital appropriation of $10  million, which was                                                               
approved by the  legislature, and the final  expenditure of those                                                               
funds was  in 2016;  therefore, there  was financial  support for                                                               
the work  on climate  change for  almost a  decade.   Mr. Hopkins                                                               
emphasized  that money  is needed  to continue  the work.   Local                                                               
governments are  spending money  and making  efforts.   He warned                                                               
against  a continual  restart of  state policy  regarding climate                                                               
change.  He said, "We are  leading ourselves down a path of start                                                               
and stop  that is  not helpful  for our  state residents  and our                                                               
state government."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:26:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND expressed appreciation  for Mr. Hopkins' review                                                               
of the 30  years' record.  She noted that  the documents from the                                                               
current  meeting  are  not  hidden  from  the  public;  they  are                                                               
available on the legislature's website.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:27:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM SCHIMMEL  informed the committee  that he is  Kenaitze Indian                                                               
and Siberian Yupik  Eskimo and was a former member  of CAALT.  He                                                               
currently serves  on the Climate  Action Technical  Committee for                                                               
the National Foundation  for American Indians.  He  said he would                                                               
speak  about  what climate  action  means  for Native  and  rural                                                               
Alaska,  as well  as  the role  of youth  in  bringing forth  the                                                               
current recommendations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHIMMEL  said people hear  about what climate  change means,                                                               
but rarely about what it feels like.   He shared that part of his                                                               
youth was  spent in Gambell, Alaska,  in the Bering Strait,  in a                                                               
community of  about 800  people, primarily  Alaska Native.   With                                                               
limited groceries  at exorbitant prices, the  lifestyle there was                                                               
largely one  of subsistence.   He talked about going  out whaling                                                               
as  a  boy  and  visiting   his  great  uncle,  "the  traditional                                                               
weatherman," who  would determine which  direction to go  to find                                                               
the  animals.    Climate  change  created  unpredictable  weather                                                               
patterns  that  made   it  impossible  for  him   to  make  these                                                               
determinations towards  his final  years in  life.   Mr. Schimmel                                                               
said, "What that meant was  that our traditional knowledge was no                                                               
longer holding the role that it  once did, and we could no longer                                                               
rely on it."  Although this  year the community was lucky to have                                                               
a  large enough  ice  pack, in  prior years  there  has not  been                                                               
enough  ice, which  means that  the  walrus on  which the  Native                                                               
people  rely  cannot  be  harvested.    As  a  result,  the  U.S.                                                               
Department of Agriculture (USDA) has  had to fly in canned salmon                                                               
to support the  diets of the people of Gambell.   He stated, "Our                                                               
grocery store  - the Bering  Sea -  is changing."   He emphasized                                                               
that in  order for  Native communities like  his to  exist, there                                                               
must be climate mitigation and adaptation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:31:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHIMMEL said  CAALT worked to ensure that the  Native way of                                                               
being  was not  impacted by  its recommendations  and traditional                                                               
methods of hunting  and gathering were supported  "by building in                                                               
mechanisms  to allow  these practices  to continue."   He  said a                                                               
larger sea,  because of a  lack of ice, makes  hunting dangerous.                                                               
Figuring out ways  to allow for different times of  harvest was a                                                               
factor  in the  recommendations of  CAALT -  "the integration  of                                                               
traditional  ecological knowledge  with scientific  background to                                                               
create ...  a cohesive climate policy  and policy recommendations                                                               
regarding ...  all aspects of these  types of actions."   He said                                                               
the hope  is that "our communities"  can continue to carry  on as                                                               
they have for  thousands of years in the face  of climate change.                                                               
He indicated  that that  is where  the recommendations  that have                                                               
been given to the committee come into play.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHIMMEL  highlighted the  role of  youth in  giving feedback                                                               
for the  recommendations.  At  one point, over 40  youth gathered                                                               
in Anchorage to  give their input.  He  emphasized the importance                                                               
of a policy plan put together by people of diverse backgrounds.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:34:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHIMMEL  stressed the importance of  perpetuating "life that                                                               
has been  taking place in  Alaska" without  "negatively impacting                                                               
the economic  outlook of the  state," adapting to  climate change                                                               
without "changing how  we continue to do  business," and "finding                                                               
a meaningful solution  in that space."  He  thanked the committee                                                               
for  taking the  time to  address this  issue.   He advised  that                                                               
while a  lot of other things  are going on in  the world, climate                                                               
change  is  "one thing  that  won't  be  going  away."   He  said                                                               
adaptive measures will  need to be taken in order  for his people                                                               
to continue living in Gambell.   He thanked committee members for                                                               
putting their  minds together  "to make a  better Alaska,  and to                                                               
make an easier Alaska, for Alaska Natives and everybody else."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:36:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND thanked the presenters.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:36:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHIMMEL,  in response to  Co-Chair Hannan, talked  about the                                                               
current  situation related  to the  coronavirus pandemic  and his                                                               
place  at  Stanford University,  and  he  said he  was  currently                                                               
attempting to return to Alaska  before the bay area in California                                                               
entered into its shelter in place phase.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:37:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  talked about  the focus  of the  House Community                                                               
and Regional  Affairs Standing Committee  on community  issues of                                                               
the state, and how the focus  on climate change has been affected                                                               
by the  current escalation  of concern  regarding COVID-19.   She                                                               
expressed appreciation  for Mr.  Schimmel's work on  CAALT, while                                                               
speculating that there  probably would be no money  in the budget                                                               
to  spend  on  the  climate  change  recommendations  during  the                                                               
pandemic.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:40:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND said  she  was aware  that  while people  were                                                               
being told to wash their  hands, there were dozens of communities                                                               
without  running water.   She  said, as  Mr. Hopkins  had pointed                                                               
out, that  there have been  known issues  for the last  30 years,                                                               
and she  opined that "with  the background of climate  change, we                                                               
should  have been  able to  bring our  communities up  to speed."                                                               
Now, she said, people are being asked to shelter in place.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:41:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE,  in response to  Co-Chair Hannan's  previous remarks,                                                               
said one of  the comments heard in discussions  by the leadership                                                               
team,  as  well  as  in   public  comments,  was  regarding  "the                                                               
overlapping nature  of climate  change."   As Mr.  Schimmel said,                                                               
food  security   and  economic   opportunity  overlap   with  the                                                               
environment  in  communities  and  with cultures;  they  are  not                                                               
separate   issues.     He  indicated   that   COVID-19  is   also                                                               
intertwined.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE,  in his concluding  remarks, noted that his  son, who                                                               
is eight, is  a fourth generation Alaskan.  He  stated his belief                                                               
that "we  all have  an obligation"  to ensure  future generations                                                               
have  the same  opportunities in  Alaska that  former generations                                                               
had.  Mr. Levine said he  understands that everyone may not agree                                                               
as to  the best course  of action, but  efforts to figure  it out                                                               
must continue.  He said that  is what made CAALT successful:  the                                                               
ability to  see its  differences and work  toward a  common goal.                                                               
He said he  and the other two speakers  encourage legislators "to                                                               
continue  to lead  those difficult  conversations  and to  engage                                                               
Alaskans in all of them."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:43:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND thanked the presenters again.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:44:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN   noted  that  printed  copies   of  the  team's                                                               
recommendations were  available.   She emphasized  the importance                                                               
of keeping the focus on the issue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:45:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 8:45 a.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Climate Actions by Department 3.16.2020.pdf HCRA 3/17/2020 8:00:00 AM
Climate Change Action Plan Recommendations.pdf HCRA 3/17/2020 8:00:00 AM
Climate Change Policy Recommendations.pdf HCRA 3/17/2020 8:00:00 AM